An interesting question. Where do I come from indeed.?
From research to date, my Paternal Savell line has come mostly from southern England. On my Maternal side, there is much greater variety, with Cornish, southern England
and Channel Islands genes predominating. Unfortunately, whichever way you look at it, there is nothing really spectacular in the blood lines either by way of fame or fortune.
Notwithstanding this, there are some interesting details which are either known as fact or assumed by deduction
Early immigration in to New Zealand was a major part of mine and my Wife’s ancestry - see Immigrant Ships for full details. This early immigration to New Zealand now has
my New Zealand roots going back to the 1840's - about 170 years and 6 generations
MY FATHER’S ANCESTORS
[Ivan's Pedigree chart here]
Father’s Paternal Ancestors: Savell [London, England]
Savell: Family history shows that they came from the London area, with various births recorded in Stepney and Millwall Poplar. Researchers are reasonably
comfortable in identifying a Samuel Savell b 1805 in London. Links to earlier Savell’s currently run back to a Thomas Savell b abt. 1730, but these links are tenuous until
solid research can prove it.
The Savell’s living in London in the early 1800’s, have a history of employment and ownership as Lightermen [Lighter men were on barges that took cargo etc. to the ships.
The 1881 Census has Joseph Savell, B 1830 living at 17 Garford St, London. A family Letter has his Mother, Elizabeth Savell b abt. 1806 [nee Seabourne] living at 17
Garford St in 1894. My Great Grandfather Samuel Savell was b 1839 in Stepney, London, m Christiana Ramsden b 1844 died in Foxton 1907. Their 4th child, Beatrice
was b 1866 and d 1867 in Millwall Poplar, London. Their 5th child, Herbert was born in Timaru, NZ 1869. They therefore immigrated to New Zealand about 1866/7.
However, despite intensive investigation by several researchers, combing thru passenger lists, etc, there is no trace of what ship they came on, from where and on what
date. Following immigration, they then made their way to the Foxton, Manawatu area.
The names Ramsden and Seaborn [Seabourn/Seabourne ] are also associated with the Savell line
ORIGIN OF THE NAME SAVELL
Here is some commentary on the origins of the name Savell. Note that the two articles have 2 different locations for the origin of the name. However, they do agree on the
point that the name originated in France and came to England in Yorkshire
The First Article
The surname of SAVELL was a locational name 'of Saville' in Ardennes, France. The name was brought to England in the wake of the Norman Conquest of 1066. Following
the crusades in Europe in the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries, a need was felt for a family name to replace the one given at birth, or in addition to it. This was recognized by
those of noble birth, and particularly by those who went on the Crusades, as it added prestige and practical advantage to their status. At first the coat of arms was a
practical matter which served a function on the battlefield and in tournaments. With his helmet covering his face, and armour encasing the knight from head to foot, the only
means of identification for his followers, was the insignia painted on his shield, and embroidered on his surcoat, the draped and flowing garment worn over the armour. Early
records of the name mention John de Sayvill, 1246 Yorkshire. Robertus Sayuill was listed in the Yorkshire Poll Tax of 1379. John Payne and Fridiswith Saville were married
in London in the year 1611. Sir Thomas Mildmay and Anne Savile were married in the parish of Wakefield, County York in 1616.
The Second Article:-
Savell is a name whose history on English soil dates back to the wave of migration that followed the Norman Conquest of England of 1066. The Savell family lived in
Yorkshire. Their name, however, is a reference to Saville, in Anjou, France, the family's place of residence prior to the Norman Conquest of England in 1066.
Anglo-Norman names are characterized by a multitude of spelling variations. When the Normans became the ruling people of England in the 11th century, they introduced a
new language into a society where the main languages of Old and later Middle English had no definite spelling rules. These languages were more often spoken than written,
so they blended freely with one another. Contributing to this mixing of tongues was the fact that medieval scribes spelled words according to sound, ensuring that a person's
name would appear differently in nearly every document in which it was recorded. The name has been spelled Savile, Savill, Saville, Seville and others.
First found in Yorkshire where they were seated from very early times and were granted lands by Duke William of Normandy, their liege Lord, for their distinguished
assistance at the Battle of Hastings in 1066 A.D
Source www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/qx/savell-family-crest.htm - Savell-Family-Crest-history
Father’s Maternal Ancestors : Newth [Wiltshire, England]
Newth: This is an ancient Anglo-Saxon name that is derived from Cnute, a popular name in the early middle ages. Its popularity was due to the influence of a Dane,
Cnut, who was King of England , in 1016. Alternatively, it may be a nickname from the old English ‘hnutu’, which would relate someone with a brown complexion. The name
Newth can also be related to Nutt, Nudd, Nutting and Knutt. The name first came to prominence in Gloucestershire, where there was a family seat. However, many of my
lineages come from Wiltshire and in particular, Malmesbury or Wootton Bassett.
My G. G. Grandfather, Mark Newth b 1802 immigrated on the Will Watch to Nelson, where the bulk of the New Zealand Newth’s congregated. My Grandmother, Emily
Newth, came to Foxton, where she married my Grandfather, Edgar Savell
The names Andrew, Bye, Dean, Norris are also associated with the Newth’s
MY MOTHERS ANCESTORS
[Audrey's Pedigree chart here]
Mother’s Paternal Ancestors: Tostevin [ Guernsey, Channel Islands]
Tostevin: My Grandfather, Francis Tostevin b 1892 was born in Foulon, Guernsey and immigrated to Auckland, NZ 1909. He then came to Sanson, Manawatu NZ.
I am confident that I have correctly identified Francis’s paternal line back to Thomas Tostevin, B 1824 and then probably to his father, Thomas Tostevin b 1790. Beyond
this, it gets speculative. If I believe what I have, we can trace the Tostevin line back to a Nicolas Tostevin, B 1470, in Brittany France. Tostevin tradition states that Tostevin’s
were brought to Guernsey as masons by the monks of the Benedictine monastery of Mont St Michel, in Brittany, when they were supervising alterations to the parish church
of St Pierre-du-Bois. St Pierre du Bois [English = St Peter In the Wood] parish is therefore the Guernsey origins of the Tostevin’s. So it appears that at least for this arm of
the family, there appears to be a French connection
The following surnames in our line also have originated in the Tostevin, Guernsey, lineage, with little else being known of their origins. Duquemin, Gallienne, Jefferys, Hill,
Mahy, Robin, Torode, Trachy
Mother's Maternal Ancestors: Thompson [Cornwall, England] & Hunt [Hampshire, England]
Thompson: My G. Grandparent, James Thompson was b 1853 in Green Veryan, Cornwall. He immigrated on the ship ‘City of Auckland’ arriving in New Zealand 1872
and set up camp in Sanson, NZ. Legend has it that THOMSON’s, due to the unsettled times, moved from Scotland to Cornwall. At the same time, they added the ‘P’ to their
surname and became THOMPSON. If this is correct, it was prior to the 1750, as there is a related Thompson being born in Cornwall in 1752. There are concentrations of
our Thompson’s in Veryan, Cornwall and St-Just-in Roseland adjacent to the Channel Coast. So presumably we have not only the Cornish connection, but Scots ones as
There is also a Cornish connection to Richard Blamey b 1569 in the Thompson Line
HUNT: My G. G. Grandfather was William Hunt b 1833 In Ringwood, Hampshire, with the connection going back to a John Hunt b 1690, all of who have essentially
originated in Hampshire. On 18th September, 1839 my G. G. G. Grandparents, Charles and Naomi Hunt and four children, set sail from London on the ship Adelaide with
The New Zealand Company, which was set up to assist migrants to NZ.
These surnames also are associated with this lineage:- Andrews, Habgood and Hill
SAVELL - WHERE WE CAME FROM
HEY DAD, WHERE DID WE COME FROM?
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